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Poster: rastamon Date: Jan 10, 2012 9:23am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

"Mitt romney, the tea party, fox news, christian science monitor and the military channel are not the substance of this communities collective consciousness, asshole.

Hopefully your kids wont grow up to be hanger-ons like their kewl dad.

> Micah go fuck yourself forever"

hey ahso, u go fuck your intolerant self.



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Poster: deadhead53 Date: Jan 10, 2012 11:25am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Oh so I am seeing it now according to asho, if you don't agree with the left-wing community and you have other opinions (which is what this country was founded on free-speech no matter what) then is that being a troll? Monte I like many of the stories that you tell and how you post about taping and the equipment and your knowledge of the dead but if a troll is someone who disagrees with you then that is not a troll. I am not antogonizing you, I am trying to follow this post and get a definition of what a troll is, while disagreeing with someone is not a troll in my definition. Just trying to clear this up and figure out what you define as a troll

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 12:38pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Noise Collector is the worst Troll
http://www.archive.org/post/404170/your-tea-party-propaganda-one-percent-mantra

RBNW....new and improved! is the most mindless Troll
http://www.archive.org/post/240947/alembic-history

Robthewordsmith is the biggest problem here
http://www.archive.org/details/TrollBoyWannaBe

Kochman is the funniest Troll. He spammed all of us here once we joined LSP. I actually like Koch in some of his personnas. If it's true that he sandbagged Clff and stalked him in real life, that's the worst kind of Troll. That's criminal behavior, and he should be prosecuted for that. NC has threatened me here about my photo recently. He's the scariest person on here - By Far. I'm putting all of you, and The Archive on notice about him and all the Trolls here. I have several attorneys looking into this.

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:31pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Well fol-de-rol.

Looks like the psychochemical monkeys you've been messing around with all these years finally decided to take their reality bananas home.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:42pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Rab, remember when you offered to write my story for me? [in fact, that could have been the compendium, sort of. you were the first one to catch onto the notion of a compendium with me. you're very clever, and very smart!] That was several years ago on here, after you ripped my ass to shreds several times, and we had it out once.

Since then, you've nagged me for posting pics, nagged me for using different fonts, nagged me for using HTML, and nagged me for editing. I see you're back at it. You're the best Troll!

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Poster: robthewordsmith Date: Jan 10, 2012 2:07pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

"Monte there’s no question of anyone ‘letting you speak’ here. You say what you want, buddy, you don’t need an invitation. Just be ready to take the brickbats along with the bouquets."

That was me to you - 17 January 2008. It's still solid advice.

March 2010, I believe, was the only time I took issue with you about the amount of coding in your posts. If you take the time to look at the thread you'll see we ended up parting on good terms.

http://www.archive.org/post/299615/custom-colors-non-dead

So good in fact, that yes, a few months later I did offer to help you tell your story.

http://www.archive.org/post/314379/tapers-tales

And lately, I even IDed Rosie McGee for you.


So, where's all this fantasy nagging taking place? Truth is, generally I just ignore you. On balance I think that's good policy.

Oh yeah and it's Rob - not Rab. Thank you.

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 11, 2012 3:47am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Rob, we agree what you've said about posting. I'm not attacking you. I apologize for mentioning your name in this thread, if I've annoyed you in doing so. I'm sorry.

How do we do a Taper's Compendium? Is there any way possible? I thought this conversation was worth a try. In the future, no one can say it was not discussed. We can try doing it. People here can work together if they decide to do it. Or, we can bag it here. If we go for doing it here, we need a list of people who want to work on it. The roster will include who does what.

The discussion point here is: You cannot mix Academics and Trolls. I wish you well, especially when you're behaving yourself. Thanks for speaking up.

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Poster: Jacky Hughes Date: Jan 14, 2012 9:35am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: Mea culpa

@Rob -"Oh yeah and it's Rob - not Rab. Thank you. "

Sorry Rob, that's probably my fault (but Rab is your alter ego).

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:11pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Who will be the judge and jury in these troll trials?

Trying to identify, fix or eradicate trolls is a MASSIVE waste of time.

I simply ignore posts by people "I" deem to be trollish. It's REALLY EASY. When a troll responds to a post I write, I pay no mind. I understand their game and the fact remains...it takes two to tango. Trolls are neutered by way of the silent treatment.

Forumites who hate trolls and get their panties in a wad regarding troll posts are the same group that keep the trolls coming back for more. They thrive on YOUR ATTENTION. I am amazed by the density of those who don't understand this concept.

If you can't take a joke or criticism or bullying you have 2 options. Ignore or stay out of the forum completely.

Many wish there was an option 3....eradicate trolls. This will never happen. The sooner you learn to live with that fact, the sooner you can get on with more important matters in your life and in this forum.

Monte the bottom-line is: if you let the trolls discourage you from making a compendium of taping history, you are letting them win. Don't be a loser. You're better than that...you're tougher than that....right?

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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

It's not up to me who wins. It's up to you. I'm being censored. Why? How come?

When I've been attacked, I did exactly what you said "ignore or stay out." I am doing both. Trolls Win. You are correct. It's called censorship. Plain. Simple. Fact. The Tapers agree with me by consent. They never come here.

Many people here are harassing me. Noise Collector is stalking me all over The Archive. In my perception, he's threatening me. I already called the cops on him.

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Poster: micah6vs8 Date: Jan 10, 2012 2:36pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

NC maybe ought to be taken to task for using Cap Lock, but not calling law enforcement. I read no threat, just political speech w/ some name calling as seasoning. Calling the police over such a matter takes time away from their needed duties and tears at the fabric of the forum.

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Poster: high flow Date: Jan 10, 2012 1:43pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Monte, I'm not a cop or a person of influence at archive.org. The people who operate this website seem not to care much about troll activity. I assume that they have faced the sad reality that if you host a public website the trolls will come. AFAIK, there is no person who has been assigned the duty of toll-fighting. I'm not sure there is a way to combat what these trolls do on sites like this one.

Rather than pointing the finger at up-standing members of the forum who seem to get along just fine in spite of trolls, may I suggest you create your own blog or website and post your information in a safe haven. That way, you can control who sees your stuff and boot anybody you decide is riff-raff.

Everything you do here is like sculpture in a public park. Many people will walk past and see your art. Most passers-by simply take-in the sight and silently form an opinion. Some will stand-by and comment on how much they like or hate your sculpture. Regardless of how cool your sculpture is, eventually some doofus with a spray-can will come along and deface your art.

I'm not sure what to do about taggers or trolls. Any REAL suggestions as to how to handle such scum would be welcome. But I don't hear solutions, I hear whining.



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Poster: dead-head_Monte Date: Jan 10, 2012 4:03pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: O.K. So I'm off by a Week 1911/2011

Compendium Panel - my Picks:

Rab Robthewordsmith: Author, Admin
Blue Devil: Assignment Editor, Admin
LightintoAshes: Chief investigative correspondent, Admin
Charlie Miller: Taper-in-Chief of bringing Tapers to the Table, Admin
Cliff: VP in Charge of Notebooks, Admin
Kochman: Storyteller in Charge, Admin
Skobud and Rastamon: Chiefs of Security, Admins
High Flow: Executive in Charge of Conflict Resolution, Admin
Ghostofpig: Executive Director, Admin
Arbuthnot: Communications Director, Admin
He Live's: Featured Essayist, Admin
Hunter Seamons: Tapers and Matrixing, Admin
William Tell: The Archive's GD Ambassador, Admin
Althea Rose: PR Director, President, CEO, Admin in Charge

me: executive producer, compendium librarian, tech support, Admin

This post was modified by dead-head_Monte on 2012-01-11 00:03:09